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What makes these brands of camping gear worth the price?

by Camping Gear on April 8, 2012

I’ve been to REI and other sporting good stores in search for camping gear in particularly tents. I see brands like Kelty, North Face, and Eureka and have seen their tents and to be honest, I don’t see the reason for such a high price for these tents. Some are as much as $500 and I just don’t get it. Some say it’s the quality but I’ve been camping for over 20 years and my Coleman tent has held up in pretty harsh weather including heavy rain stroms and even snow and my coleman cost me about $100. I even have a Ozark Trail tent that has held up and never leaked. So what’s the rationalation for such high prices? I don’t get it. I have friends who say the quality is better yet they always seem to buying new tents every year and I’ve had my Coleman and Ozark for almost 8 years now and I camp about four to five times a year so they get used. s the quality that much better?

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Garret April 8, 2012 at 1:17 am

Well, one part of this is some people just like buying name brand items at higher prices. The North Face used to only make high quality products that were actually used for their intended purpose, like scaling the worlds tallest mountains. More recently though, they’ve become more of a fashion brand and their quality has suffered some. Some people are gear junkies as well, they like buying the latest model with the latest feature.

While Coleman does make a decent and durable tent, I wouldn’t want to backpack with one. A 2 person Coleman usually weighs about 8 lbs, while an REI light weight tent costs $200 and weighs about 4 lbs. It doesn’t sound like much of a difference sitting at home, but on the trail shaving off 4 lbs makes a difference. (side note, it’s one reason I like my Hennessey Hammock, which only weighs 2 lbs)

Kelty and Eureka actually have a wide range of prices in their product lines. I’ve seen tents in the $75-100 range from both manufacturers, but some models being in the $500 range too. Usually with the high prices you’re getting lower weight without sacrificing function. The more weight you want to take off a tent, the more expensive it becomes and for the absolute lightest models, you’re starting to use some very expensive materials. There are some brands that specialize in lighter weight gear, like Go-Lite, and while it’s still more expensive than Coleman, you’ll have a broader range of prices for similar weight items.

J April 8, 2012 at 1:17 am

it’s definitely the weight. you’re talking silicone-nylon fabric in a high-end tent/tarp vs. canvas.

but for a lot of the really expensive tents, it’s both weight and durability. i have a $500-ish tent that i use for winter hiking. it can withstand extremely high winds and feet of snow, which a typical Coleman can’t take–and the tent is lighter than a Coleman, too.

but if you’re just car-camping, then usually the cheaper tents are best. it’s definitely another matter if you’re hiking or mountaineering.

Scott April 8, 2012 at 1:17 am

I never throw anything out until it is fully unusable.

I have a couple cheap dome tents from the 80′s. A coleman family tent from the mid 90′s and a REI 4-season dome from the mid 90′s.

I care for my equipment and keep it stored in an insulated shop.

I still use one of the cheap dome tents when I am by myself and fairly well assured it will not rain. The floor will rapidly let water soak in. The fiberglass poles will allow the dome to flatten in wind, even when guyed. The stitching is light, the zippers are light, and the rain fly does little to keep the rain out, even when regularly treated with quality Nicwax.

Likewise, my coleman has a poor door design that directs water into the tent. Fiberglass poles are more splints than pole. Sides are exposed and will eventually get soaked and allow water inside. It is a little better in wind, but noisy. Still, a good family tent for good weather, esp if using cots.

My REI has been used from -20 to 110 degrees. I have been buried in snow, and stood up to winds that have taken roofs off of houses and blown over trees. It has been in in wind driven rain. The bathtub floor, the YKK metal zippers (heavy plastic coil) and the tight fitting aluminum poles (5) in full length sleeves all add to the expense. The fasteners are Fastex (thus replaceable). It sheds more water without the rain-fly than the cheap one does with! The shape of the tent and fly lends itself to a tight set-up, no wind flapping. The vestibule is large enough for three packs. Seams are tightly sewn.

It is like the difference between a room at Motel 6 or a suit at the Hyatt! Split between 3 hikers the weight is reasonable and it is a comfort to know that if a storm hits, we will at least be dry. I gladly carry it on any hike longer than a weekend.

chris w April 8, 2012 at 1:17 am

Agreed that the weight factor is a primary point. Any Coleman will weight more than any REI tent, in tent for tent comparison. Quality is also an Important issue, yes I can find a $40 dollar tent that weighs almost the same as a $400 tent but zippers fail, material fails, seams leak and who are you gonna call and complain to. REI stands by what they sell as does Coleman and they have a proven record in review products. Also look at what are professional guides using, here they want happy campers to return and use their services. If they were to put them in a tent that leaks, rips and falls down in a squall, that camper won’t be back so again. You really do pay for what you get. If your buddies are buying new gear every year they are probably very hard on their gear and don’t take good care of it. I have Coleman products and REI products that I have had for well over 10 years and all have served me well only because I take good care of them.

I agree with you that in some common tent designs like a simple dome or family cabin tent prices are ridiculously high for a name brand. Then you should consider dollar for dollar on it’s guarantees and performance. In a family sized cabin tent used in car camping a Coleman tent will out perform anything out there at around $200 for their best tent. In a REI family tent double or even triple the price and you get less tent as well.

blkcpdconure April 8, 2012 at 1:17 am

It really comes down to what you will be using it for. When tents are around the $500 price range you are probably looking at a 4 season mountaineering tent. When I’m backpacking and want a tent I bring my Big Agnes tent. It weighs a bit over 3 lbs and fits two people(tightly) and was a bit over $300. If you are car camping you can usually get by with a less expensive tent that uses heavier material.

When I am backpacking and have a long way to travel I use a 8 x 10 sil-nylon tarp that weighs about 1 lb. On those trips it is all about weight so I get the lightest gear I can afford. Not counting food, water and fuel my base pack weight is about 13 lbs. Most of my UL gear is from small cottage companies and I LOVE supporting those small companies. Usually you can talk directly with the owner and they have no problem doing custom orders if you give them the time and extra money.

Maico Maico April 8, 2012 at 1:17 am

Well I consider Kelty and Eureka to be mid level priced tents with Coleman, Wenzel, Ozark Trail to be the more budget branded ones . North Face, REI, Nemo, Marmot , Sierra Designs, those are the upper end models. The reason for the price is the low volume / high end qualities in the tents themselves.
Alot has to do with lighter weight for back packers, they use higher end poles, very high end materials, better zippers, better designs while at the same time making them lighter and more durable than the usual tents. They have a lot more attention to detail as well, much tighter stitching , tigher tolerances and much more research and development. Does the average camper need all this? Not really… but some people do appreciate the differences and will pay the money for it. I have a 400.00 dollar Nemo Asashi tent that I wouldn’t trade for the world …. it will go through hell and back, stay dry,never leak and give me a lot more space due to its straigheter wall design than a normal 4 man tent. To me it’s worth it…higher end gear always last longer and performs better than the cheaper stuff . But it doesn’t mean you have to get it if it’s not important to you .

thex April 8, 2012 at 1:17 am

Better tents have aluminum poles which are lighter, stronger and more expensive than the fiberglass poles that come with cheap tents. Fiberglass poles will crack in cold weather making them useless for winter/cold weather camping.
The coating of water proofing is another thing. Cheap tent will have like an 800 mil coating while higher quality tents will have 2000 mil plus coating. It makes a big difference. Factory taped seams are a bonus as.
Fabric can alter the price dramatically as well.
Sierra Designs, NEMO, MSR, Mountain Hardwear, Big Agnes, Marmot….these are brands that make quality equipment (for the most part) and specialize and cater to people who want good stuff. I also feel because of a brand name and/or new designs that prices are jacked unnecessarily, because, they can and there are plenty of gear heads who must have it now.
I personally use Eureka, The North Face and Sierra Designs, mid level, all under $200 tents. For what I do (about 15 three season trips and 2-3 winter), I find these kind of tents very reliable, durable, light enough, comfortable and (somewhat) affordable. I do have a $300 MSR tent that I thought I would like but don’t and is in the process of being sold. Will take my $140 TNF tent over it any day. So a lot has to do with preference as well.
If you are going car camping for a few nights once or twice a year, or a 10 minute walk into the woods with your friends and cases of beer, you should be alright with a $50 Kmart tent. But if your on the trail a lot and need reliability while being 20 miles out, you want quality.
Gear heads like to buy new gear, it;s that simple. It’s a collection. I have mine and am always looking to try something new/different.

Spencer April 8, 2012 at 1:17 am

Everything at REI is more expensive because you pay for the lifetime warranty. the reason for higher price is quality of the materials. the synthetics just last longer and take more abuse i have a kelty from rei that has lasted near 3 decades it was my dads and he passed it onto me and it works just as good now that im 16 as it did when i was 5 on my first camping trip. now of coarse sense i got into back packing i got a new tent cost about 2-300 dollars and i am pleased with it’s weight and it’s durability. it’s lasted in snow it’s worked in desert and in forest and has stood up to constant raine adn heat sand storms and hasn’t failed me yet. The one time one of my poleses broke rei fixed them up with no charge to me. So yes there is definitelyinetly a difference in quality and security.

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